I was a guest on this week’s episode of Pragmatic, a podcast about nerdy things by nerdy people.

On this episode, John and I discussed the merits and drawbacks of the metric and imperial units of measure. This is a topic that I’ve discussed numerous times on Twitter. As an Australian, John had some, let’s call them, differing viewpoints.

I had a lot of fun making an impassioned plea for… some things. As it turns out, my position on metric versus imperial is more nuanced than perhaps even I expected. You’ll have to listen to see what parts of imperial I defended, and what I was embarrassed by.