Last week I stepped out of the tech bubble and slipped back on a pair of comfortable shoes that I hadn’t worn in a while. I recorded a car podcast.

The folks at White Roof Radio, a Mini-themed podcast, asked me to be their guest on this week’s episode. On it, we talk about some of my history with cars, my thoughts about Mini, some industry news, and more.

I had a ton of fun recording with them, and it was a blast to stop thinking tech and start thinking like the car-obsessed guy I’ve always been. If you were at all a fan of Neutral, you’ll probably enjoy this.